Transcript. This oral history interview with Randall Dunn was conducted by Greta Smith Wisnewski at the Bankruptcy Court building in Portland, Oregon, in seven sessions from September 18, 2018, to February 8, 2019. At the time of the interview, Wisnewski's name was Greta K. Smith.

In the first interview session, conducted on September 17, 2018, Dunn discusses his family background and early life in Crown Point, Indiana, including Indiana politics and his education, particularly the experience of taking high school classes from his mother. He also talks about playing clarinet and his interest in music. He then discusses his experience at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, including the house he lived in, his roommates, and continuing to play music.

In the second interview session, conducted on October 22, 2018, Dunn continues discussing his family background and his experience at Northwestern University, including working in an oil refinery during the summers. He then talks about his experience at Stanford Law School, including his impressions of the West Coast, some of his professors, and working on the law review. He also talks about his later work as editor-in-chief of the Oregon Debtor-Creditor Newsletter. He discusses playing clarinet in the Stanford orchestra, where he met his wife, Laurie.

In the third interview session, conducted on November 19, 2018, Dunn continues discussing his experience at Stanford Law School, including working as a law clerk in Indiana during the summers. He also continues discussing his relationship with, and later marriage to, Laurie. He then talks about practicing antitrust law at Berman and Giauque in Salt Lake City, Utah, and then bankruptcy law at Copeland, Landye, Bennet, and Wolf in Portland, Oregon. He describes the workplace culture in both places and some of the cases he worked on. He talks about playing clarinet in the Salem Symphony and the Portland Opera orchestra.

In the fourth interview session, conducted on December 28, 2018, Dunn continues to discuss practicing bankruptcy law at Copeland, Landye, Bennet, and Wolf in Portland, and describes some of the cases he worked on. He then talks about Oregon bankruptcy law, the procedures of the Oregon bankruptcy court, and the bankruptcy court staff, including judges and law clerks. He also discusses working as editor of the Oregon Debtor-Creditor Newsletter and other bankruptcy court-related publications. He further discusses playing clarinet in the Portland Opera orchestra.

In the fifth interview session, conducted on January 11, 2019, Dunn discusses the lawyer job market in Portland. He then continues talking about bankruptcy law, particularly the changes to the law made in 2005. He talks about his service as a bankruptcy judge beginning in 1998, including the application process, his fellow judges, and learning how to be a judge. He also talks about decorating his office at the bankruptcy courthouse in Portland, about his law clerks, and about scheduling cases.

In the sixth interview session, conducted on January 25, 2019, Dunn continues discussing his service as a bankruptcy judge beginning in 1998, including some of the cases he heard and his judicial philosophy. He also talks about his service on the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel beginning in 2006, including his fellow panelists and some of the cases he heard.

In the seventh and final interview session, conducted on February 8, 2019, Dunn continues discussing his service on the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel beginning in 2006, including some of the cases he heard. He also talks about his involvement with the National Conference of Bankruptcy Judges and awards he received. He discusses the importance of bankruptcy laws, reflects on his accomplishments, and talks about his retirement activities. He closes the interview by discussing the science program for the Ninth Circuit Executive Committee.

Video 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Michael O'Rourke in Sullivan's chambers at the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Portland, Oregon, on July 6, 2006. In the interview, Sullivan discusses his early career as a lawyer in Salem, and as assistant district attorney with Sid Lezak in the Multnomah County district attorney's office in Portland, then as a clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon. He describes working with judges Gus Solomon and William East. Sullivan also talks about serving as a bankruptcy judge. He closes the interview by talking about his personal life and family.

Session 1, Part 2. In the first interview session, conducted on September 17, 2018, Dunn discusses his family background and early life in Crown Point, Indiana, including Indiana politics and his education, particularly the experience of taking high school classes from his mother. He also talks about playing clarinet and his interest in music. He then discusses his experience at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, including the house he lived in, his roommates, and continuing to play music.

Session 4. In the fourth interview session, conducted on December 28, 2018, Dunn continues to discuss practicing bankruptcy law at Copeland, Landye, Bennet, and Wolf in Portland, and describes some of the cases he worked on. He then talks about Oregon bankruptcy law, the procedures of the Oregon bankruptcy court, and the bankruptcy court staff, including judges and law clerks. He also discusses working as editor of the Oregon Debtor-Creditor Newsletter and other bankruptcy court-related publications. He further discusses playing clarinet in the Portland Opera orchestra.

Session 5. In the fifth interview session, conducted on January 11, 2019, Dunn discusses the lawyer job market in Portland. He then continues talking about bankruptcy law, particularly the changes to the law made in 2005. He talks about his service as a bankruptcy judge beginning in 1998, including the application process, his fellow judges, and learning how to be a judge. He also talks about decorating his office at the bankruptcy courthouse in Portland, about his law clerks, and about scheduling cases.

Session 6. In the sixth interview session, conducted on January 25, 2019, Dunn continues discussing his service as a bankruptcy judge beginning in 1998, including some of the cases he heard and his judicial philosophy. He also talks about his service on the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel beginning in 2006, including his fellow panelists and some of the cases he heard.

Tape 6, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 8, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 9, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 9, Side 2. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 10, Side 2. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 11, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Session 2. In the second interview session, conducted on October 22, 2018, Dunn continues discussing his family background and his experience at Northwestern University, including working in an oil refinery during the summers. He then talks about his experience at Stanford Law School, including his impressions of the West Coast, some of his professors, and working on the law review. He also talks about his later work as editor-in-chief of the Oregon Debtor-Creditor Newsletter. He discusses playing clarinet in the Stanford orchestra, where he met his wife, Laurie.

Tape 3, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 4, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 8, Side 2. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 12, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Session 3. In the third interview session, conducted on November 19, 2018, Dunn continues discussing his experience at Stanford Law School, including working as a law clerk in Indiana during the summers. He also continues discussing his relationship with, and later marriage to, Laurie. He then talks about practicing antitrust law at Berman and Giauque in Salt Lake City, Utah, and then bankruptcy law at Copeland, Landye, Bennet, and Wolf in Portland, Oregon. He describes the workplace culture in both places and some of the cases he worked on. He talks about playing clarinet in the Salem Symphony and the Portland Opera orchestra.

Session 7. In the seventh and final interview session, conducted on February 8, 2019, Dunn continues discussing his service on the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel beginning in 2006, including some of the cases he heard. He also talks about his involvement with the National Conference of Bankruptcy Judges and awards he received. He discusses the importance of bankruptcy laws, reflects on his accomplishments, and talks about his retirement activities. He closes the interview by discussing the science program for the Ninth Circuit Executive Committee.

Tape 4, Side 2. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 5, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 7, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 7, Side 2. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Tape 10, Side 1. This oral history interview with Donal D. Sullivan was conducted by Adair Law from June 3 to August 4, 2004. In this interview, Sullivan discusses his family background and early life, which was primarily spent in Chicago, Illinois. He then talks about serving in the U.S. Army Reserves and getting called to active duty during the Korean War. He discusses studying electrical engineering at the Illinois Institute of Technology and law at DePaul University. He talks about his marriage to Marilyn Johnson and about relocating to Portland, Oregon. Sullivan discusses working as a law clerk for Oregon Supreme Court Justice Hall Lusk. He talks about some of the cases Lusk heard during that time. He then talks about how he came to work as a deputy Multnomah County district attorney under Leo Smith and about briefly moving back to Chicago. He discusses returning to Oregon to work as a deputy U.S. attorney under U.S. Attorney Robert Y. Thornton, and later Sid Lezak. He talks about some of the cases he worked on, particularly fraud cases. He then talks about working as clerk for the U.S. District Court of Oregon, including the judges he worked with, particularly Gus Solomon, and cases he worked on, particularly those relating to draft resisters. He discusses Marilyn Johnson’s death in 1983. He then talks about his second marriage to Carol O’Kane, and her subsequent death; his children and step-children, their families, and their careers; and his experience of being quarantined during a Chicago summer due to a polio epidemic. Sullivan then discusses serving as a bankruptcy judge. He talks about his predecessor, Estes Snedecor, some of the cases he heard, and changes in bankruptcy laws. He also talks about his third marriage, to Dede McLoughlin, and about his siblings’ families and their careers. He speaks about his view of the role of bankruptcy in a capitalist system and his philosophy of law. He speaks at length about several particular bankruptcy cases he heard. He closes the interview by discussing his retirement activities.

Session 1, Part 1. In the first interview session, conducted on September 17, 2018, Dunn discusses his family background and early life in Crown Point, Indiana, including Indiana politics and his education, particularly the experience of taking high school classes from his mother. He also talks about playing clarinet and his interest in music. He then discusses his experience at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, including the house he lived in, his roommates, and continuing to play music.